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Quiz 1:
1. Study any ONE of the other presentations. Think of questions to ask or comments on the presentation. Below the poster, find a place to write your question or comment. Your question or comment should cover any THREE aspects of software project implementation of your choice. To help you think, you can look at the following aspects: (6 marks)
Developing the application from the prototype, what else is needed?
Who will develop the application?
Terms and conditions
Purchase of hardware
Installation of hardware & maintenance.
Entry of existing, previous or current data
Errors in existing data
Errors after data entry
Checking and certification of existing data entered
Training
Pilot run
Adding of new fields and new reports, etc
2. Prepare and write a full response to at least THREE aspects on your presentation. (6 marks)
You should of course look at questions and answers of others, but marks will be given for originality, not for copying. The quiz should be completed by 2pm, July 15th. Remember to include your name and ID on each and a line before and after your work.
Group-1 : By Excel
Response by: Susmita Baidya, ID: 102-25-158
Our budget is more practical. The excel is looked like user traditional form, so it is very user friendly. We can edit the form here easily then the other system.
Comment or question by other group member:
We see two servers & cost 2.5 lac tk per server for HO that means u need highly professional and also another PC with manpower to generate final report. So please tell me "Is it possible to complete for ur HO amount 5 lac tk?" and also "If we fully setup all of activies in HO then do we get any benifit?"
Name/ID: Md. Masudur Rahman 101-25-152
Response by one member of this group:
Thanks for nice questions. We are sorry to say, we did not mentioned the total cost of HO setup except the 2 servers. Whereas other PCs and manpower are also required in HO. But if you see the financial proposal of Group-2, you may find the cost of each server @ tk 1 lak only. So it could be possible to complete the HO setup with the additional PCs and manpower within 5 lak (if you want). But our recommendation is to increase the budget for the additional PCs and manpower.
If we setup the HO part fully with the total setup, then the project of course be benefited. As HO will be the Centralized Data Center of the Project then we can- i) Control the project centrally, ii) Data can be stored centrally which ensures easy data backup facility and no scope of redundancy , iii) Modification/addition in the Excel Forms (for new month) can be done from the HO, iv) Monitoring and integration with other systems can also be possible easily.
Name/ID: Muhammad Ashik Iqbal (092-25-127)
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Comment or question by other group member:
Question: We all know that excel files are vulnerable to virus.How would you manage the this security problem of your files?
Comment:You have not also mentioned the per PC cost of the software which is needed to create the excel files like Microsoft Office.
Name/ID: Chowdhury Tanvir Jalil (Id No:092-25-129)
Response by one member of this group:
Thanks Mr. Tanvir for your interest in our Group.
Not only the Excel files, any files can be affected by virus any time. Using updated Antivirus software we can protect them.
The cost of the Office Software (Word, Excel, PowerPoint) and the Operating System is included with each PC. That is why the price of each PC is bit higher in our proposal which in Tk. 50,000.
Name/ID: Muhammad Ashik Iqbal (092-25-127)
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Comment or question by other group member: You have said that you will setup the technology in the zonal office. You have also mentioned that, there will be three computers. But the data of 13x8=104 branches is a lot. Is it possible for the real field to enter the data properly? You have used EXCEL. But as far as I know it can’t handle huge amount of data. It seems to me that EXCEL is better for the prototype but not for the real life software.
Name/ID: Md. Kamrul Hasan Chayon, 101-25-142
Response by one member of this group:
Thanks Mr. Chayon. Actually the data entry process will be done by three days together. So it will not be so difficult to complete the process by our given estimated man power and PCs.
Our Excel files will not contain huge amount of data at all. Our each Excel file will contain the data of only 8 Branches (One Area Office) of a single month.
Name/ID: Muhammad Ashik Iqbal (092-25-127)
Thank you for your answer. But the data of 8 branches is not so less. It will be better , if the EXCEL file contains the individual branch.
Name/ID: Md. Kamrul Hasan Chayon, 101-25-142
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Comment or question by other group member: As per your scenario we can see that your volume of work will be done within 3 days by your workers I just wanted to know rest of the month
what they will do?
Comments: In such case isn't it better to appoint part time worker.
Can you just explain me briefly whats your plan against server crash?
Name/ID: Md. Abu Sayem Shahadat 101-25-156
Response by one member of this group:
Thanks you so much Mr. Sayem for you nice question.
Yes, our data entry process will be done only in 3 days. And the rest of the days of a month is needed to- i) make the Printed Copies of the Data Entry Form, ii) Sending the forms to the Area Office as well as Branch Office, iii) Monitoring the Data Entry in Hard Copy at Branch level, iv) Collecting the hard copy forms from Area Office which will come from Branch, v) After the Data entry in Excel file sending the files to HO by Email/CD/DVD, vi) Getting Reports/Updates from HO, vii) Communicating with the HO and Area Office, viii) Troubleshooting the PCs and Printers, etc. So they will not only be the Data Entry Operations, also need to perform lot of tasks in the whole month. So we can't appoint them for part time.
We have mentioned two Parallel Servers in our project plan. . So if Which will ensure the Data Mirroring using RAID and Clustering Technologiesone servers crashes then we can recover data from another anytime. Also DVD/Tape Backup facility can be added later. Also other Disaster Recovery Sites can be setup at a geographically separate places in future.
Name/ID: Muhammad Ashik Iqbal (092-25-127)
Comment or question by other group member:
As we know Microsoft Excel takes very few resource comparatively Oracle, MS SQL Server or any other DB Server. Why do we need 2 (Two) Server PCs (Cost 2,50000 tk) only for handling 18 PCs? and how do you provide different aspects of reports (e.g branch report, area report zonal report and son on.) ? and how do you send data from branch office to head office...?
Name/ID: Ahammad Fekri102-25-156
Response by one member of this group:
Thanks you so much Ahammad Fekri for you question’s
Our pricing was imagination in presentation time. Today I have analyzed real market for server pricing. I hope we will minimize the pricing.
We need two server for backup & security. We can provide our Printed Copies of the Data Entry Form to mail or by road. We have sent the data branch office to zonal by mail or by road, after that zonal office send the data to head office by email system because we setup the PC in our zonal office & we also can use other communication system which one is available in transferring time.
Thank you
Name/ID: Achia Khaleda Nila (092-25-133)
Comment or question by other group member:
Name/ID: Muhammad Pasha (102-25-165)
To my Dear friends and group members (of this group) and Achia Khaleda (ID: 092-25-133):
Thank u very much, I got the importance of using the 2 Servers from your last answer. In addition i would also like to ask,
What types of Server you are Referring? More specifically - Are both of these
Mail Servers? or Data Server? or Application Server? or Web Server?
IF it is a Mail Server, then why do spend huge money for only having a Mail server?
IF it is a Database Server, then How can u enter the the Excel Data on your Database ? (as Ahammad Fekri 102-25-156 has mentioned Earlier)
IF it is an Application Server, You you need Then More Times, Man powers and Money for implement that. And If you are thinking to arrange a Virtual Private Network (which is too costly) and not very easy to Implement in Bangladesh
IF it is a Web Server then our group would like to Appreciate Your Group and We are very happy, because You are Branding our System anyways :D
Thank U
Comment or question by: Muhammad Pasha (102-25-165)
Comment or question by other group member:
Name/ID: Md. Enayet Ullah(102-25-166)
Is there any option to check the Accuracy of the Data which is being Inputted form the zonal or Area office ?
And if the wrong data putted which phase (zonal office / Area office / Head Office )will check and update the Error?
Thank u
Comment or question by other group member:
Name/ID: Md. Enayet Ullah(102-25-166)
Comment or question by other group member: I think it’s a highly cost effective project in our environment, but it has data security and faster to build up final report. In this project we see that the members are not capable to calculate the project cost. So my question is “where are ur software developing cost?” And “don’t you need any training program? If YES then “where u mention that”?
Name/ID: Masudur Rahman 101-25-152
Response by one member of this group:
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Name/ID: A.Rahman Bhuiyan. / 093-25-140.
Dear Mr.Masudur Rahman Thank your very much for your query. If you follow that carefully, Here we are concern about software prototype to implementation and second question answer is we are recruit expert data entry operators for data entry purpose and they will put the data in the database server through web followed by printed forms which server is located in head office premises. So no need additional training for data entry operators.
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Comment or question by other group member:
I think your manpower cost is not feasible, because you mentioned per person cost is 500tk in a month under variable cost.If you look at the current job field of our country data entry operator salary will be within 5000 to 6000 tk per month
Name/ID: Chowdhury Tanvir Jalil(Id No:092-25-129)
Response by one member of this group:
Name/ID: Md. Azaharul Haque Biswas (102-25-167)
Thanks to Chowdhury Tanvir Jalil(Id No:092-25-129) for your nice opinion and a good question.
We are not offering any full time or Monthly Basis Job, We will offers daily basis job to the Data Entry Operators.
After The Successful Data Entry of 100 FORMS within 3 days, they have been paid 500 TK.
I have talked 3 Data Entry job Operators, who are the current Students of Daffodil International University, they agreed on our condition
Thank U
Comment or question by other group member:Name/ID:A.Rahman Bhuiyan. / 093-25-140.
Dear Mr. Chowdhury Tanvir Jalil
Thank you very much for your valuable question. You saw that we recruit two data entry operator for only two days [32 hours] per months who are able to insert all data in database through web. So data entry cost is one thousand(1000/=) taka in a month per zone.
Response by one member of this group:
Name/ID: Roni Shikder, ID: 102-25-159
Thanks for your nice question. It is not Tk. 500/month. Its daily basis job. We will hire data entry operator as our requirement.
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Name/ID: Md. Aliullah Bhuiyan,ID:093-25-138
We know that, now this day all shorts computing activities we can do very easily and within
short time also nominal cost by use of web.But here why you can not provide the best solution
among them?Like Excel,Web or Desktop.
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Comment or question by other group member:
Name/ID:
Muhammed Samsuddoha Alam (093-25-139)
Thanks for ur nice presentation. Bt i have some confusion on ur hardware purchase estimation and others.
1. Do you think the number of required UPS and its price is practical or sufficient?
2. Do you think manpower requirement is allright [for this huge task]?
3. Hav a look, in the last portion of your poster u r saying Area wise total cost. But is it areawise or someting else???
4. you gave the pc requirements bt by that price u can't buy high volume or efficient pcs. u need good performance pcs for web based applications? i think for purchase u hav to give efficient estimation becoz it is very important. what about ur opinion?
5. For any sort for software implementation u know we need implementation cost, maintanance cost, development cost and training cost. Bt where is those costs?
again many many thanks for ur hard work.
Response by one member of this group:
Name/ID: Muhammad Pasha (102-25-165)
Dear Mr. Muhammed Samsuddoha Alam (093-25-139), Md. Kamrul Hasan CHAYON (101-25-142) and All other friends,
i would like to thanks you all for all of your interest about our proposed system and our Presentation.
I would like to put my answers below:
Answer to the question number 1 & 4: Most of you are Very much Concerned about the PRICES of our PCs from the very beginning, i would like to thank u all on behalf of my group.
At the same time i would like to Represent something to all of you which has been collected from a Well Known PC Dealer in Bangladesh-
" RYANS IT LIMITED "
Product==============Price 1. Ideal 600 VA ======== 2,850 2. Apollo650 VA =======2,800 3. Power Guard600 VA = 2,800 4. OVO650 VA ======== 2,850
=========================== Our Team has so many choices
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A4 Tech: Models and Prices
KBS-720 A-Slim = 350
KBS-720 = 350
LCDS-720 X-Slim = 400
KLS-5 X-Slim Multi =450
Mercury: Models and Prices
model 2108 =250
model 2608 =450
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Other Well known keyboards
are also available with almost
the same tange of prices
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A4 Tech: 3 models
are available
with in BDT
300 to 550
Delux: 2 models
are available
with in
300 BDT
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Other Well
known Mouses
are also
available with
almost
the same range
of prices
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Total Cost for One PC (with 3 years warranty) and the UPS (with 2 years Warranty) = 22,000 BDTonly
I can confirm you all that the Estimated Price which had been proposed in our Presentation is REAL of-course!!! It was never
been imaginary.
And of course the Configurations of these PCs are good enough for only having a use of 28 working hours per Month
We don't need Very HI configured Processors or other Hardware for input some Datas on web. What one thing i will suggest to my group members, that is -
WE BETTER PURCHASE SOME GOOD KEYBOARDS AND MOUSEs anyways. :D
(the price of good Keyboards and Mouses are also mentioned on my table)
thank U all
Answer to the question number 2: If you please observe our 2nd Poster, i think you may find your answer. We have tried to show the total Seconds we need to
input these huge data. And from this, by calculating, we have got that we need in total 55.55 Hours to input those Data.
by Dividing 8 working hours by 2 PC , We just need
3 and 1/2 days to update the whole.
Thank U, once again.
Answer to the question number 3: Of course it was the Area wise expenses which had been calculated earlier, it was the same calculating processes that we had to have
for the ZONE wise expenses. We just liked to mentioned the Total amount of expenses rather than the whole calculation.
Thank U
Answer to the question number 5:
Very good question once again. Thanks.
First of all we are not proposing any desktop Software, we are proposing a web-based solutions. About Implementation Costs and Maintenance Costs:
Therefore we need only few implementation and maintenance costs of 6,525 BDT per month, after the First time Implementation
Cost of 3,99,988 BDT once.
All of these have been shown over in our upper Poster.
About Development Costs: As all the groups have been told to imagine that their system is already exist, so no group shows the development costs not even your group.
But if we have been asked, we can calculate the accurate amount very easily and submit it to all.
About Training Costs:
Actually we just need the Data Entry Operators who know the Keyboard and only two Commands Copy and Paste. Not more than that,
because the Website's interface will be as it is the physical Paper on his hand, so the user don't need to have extra ICE BREAKING
Training Sessions. 1 hour training /person, would be very fine for all of these 12 peoples. And This training on Copy and Paste
don't need any extra costs, which can be called TRAINING COSTS .
thank u
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Comment or question by other group member:
Name/ID: Susmita Baidya, 102-25-158
Are you sure that you can complete your work within the estimated time? because the speed of our Internet is not constant, sometimes it is very low or not available.
Response by one member of this group:
Name/ID: Muhammad Pasha (102-25-165)
Thank U Susmita,
If you please observe our 2nd Poster, i think you may find your answer. We have tried to show the total Seconds we need to
input these huge data. And from this, by calculating, we have got that we need in total 55.55 Hours to input those Data.
by Dividing 8 working hours by 2 PC , We just need 3 and 1/2 days to update the whole.
The fluctuation of speed of wireless internet depends on the collisions of number of users. So many users, so many Collisions.
In The Zonal Office, there is no chance to have a huge collisions between users and fluctuations as well.
Thank U
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Comment or question by other group member:
Name/ID: Md. Kamrul Hasan CHAYON, 101-25-142
You are using your system in the zonal office, which is good. You are also using web based, I appreciate you. But in the zonal office you have used only two persons. So, can you complete your tasks properly? On the other hand, you pointed out that they are not permanent. Is not that a risky job, if you don’t get them in the right time? And the price of your computer is not so enough, so I think according to this amount, your computer configuration will not be enough which you need. Response by one member of this group:
Name/ID:Muhammad Pasha (102-25-165)
Dear Md. Kamrul Hasan CHAYON (101-25-142),
Thanks for the two questions u have asked.
Both of these questions have been answered just above. please check it once again.
thank u Thank you for your response. But still, I don't get the answer of second question. Cause the data entry operator are hired.
*Response by one member of this group:
Name/ID:Muhammad Pasha (102-25-165)
I think, there is a misunderstanding tool place in all of your minds, that is We are Hiring peoples from the Capital City!!
No ways of course! Why we will do so? We can easily picks 4/5 College going Boys as the part time workers. In the current
Economic Situation, 500Tk with in 3 days, is a big amount for any College Student (specially in the Urban Area).
The tasks will be distributed on the basis of First Come, First Get the Tasks
A well known Data Entry Firm in Dhaka named "Service Engine" is running its business from last 3 years having the same strategy
I can also mention, the name of "Green Land Group" who also has a Data Entry Firm, they are also using the same strategy.
Both of these companies are running 100 PCs / Per day, where as their number of employees are more than 150 (each)
The payment has been paid by calculating the working hours of individulas / per month.
For 27 days of works (8 hours work per day) in a month, they paid 7000 BDT/ permonth
that is for 8 hours they are paying = 259.25 BDT
i think, you are satisfied now.
Thank You - Muhammad Pasha (102-25-165)
Comment or question by other group member: Could you please explain how you manage your employee ?
Name/ID: Achia Khaleda Nila (092-25-133)
Comment or question by other group member: How you manage your security system because now a day’s web hacker is available.
In this scanning system how to detect the Data Errors after the data reading by the system? If the error is so frequent then how to check and certify the existing data entered by the system?
Name/ID: Muhammad Ashik Iqbal (092-25-127)
Response by one member of this group:
Thnx brother, we know that our mobile operators company are using in this scanning systems for his client database. And it's a good sytem to increase database without data entry. When we scan a data page, the database automatic update will all data field. So data error checking smothly & frequently. If our data page have a satndard formt, so we don't face any problem to check or certify existing data. If we found any problems then our 8 peoples out (out of 10 and full) are fully consented, coz they are responsible for this job.
Name/ID: Md. Masudur Rahman 101-25-152
Response by one member of this group:
Name/ID: Chowdhury Tanvir Jalil 092-25-129
Thank you Mr.Ashik for you question.After scanning the documents we will take a printout and tally it with the documents came from the branches.If errors are found, then those will be corrected instantly in the printouts and modified in our database.
Response by one member of this group:
Brother, This scanning system scan data from a predefined format. Before scan we have to finalize the format of data of a single page. Data format means, number of square blocks for each character, the length of the defined information to be insert and the format of the information(integer, decimal, string etc.). We can also customize by setting static value for specific position in scanner. After completing all of this procedures we can scan sheets for test basis. If it works properly
then we can continue and if there is any error then we can fix it by setting customize character on that specific position.
I hope you have got your answer. Thank you for your question and we will be happy if we could help you more.
Name/ID: Ahammad Fekri102-25-156
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Comment or question by other group member:Name/ID: Susmita Baidya, 102-25-158
Scanner you used is very costly. If there is any problem in the scanner what about the maintainance cost & process?
what about your data backup system, is there any database server? because you don't mention about it?
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Name/ID: Md. Aliullah Bhuiyan,ID:093-25-138
These are very good questions .Thank you very much SUSMITA for your questions. You have asked already 2 questions in this group OK no problem. The first question was about the cost of scanner and its maintainability and the second question was about the database server. First Answer:
The price of the scanner is more. But matching up to the other system, it is more efficient, the total cost is not over another systems, easy to enter the data in the software and maintenance is very normal to repair the computer and the other accessories. Second Answer:
Actually, we don't mention here specially, but include that in the PC. We have six zones and each zone has four PCs total 24PCs and may be to store the data those are enough because now these days cost of hard disk very low that’s why we can store lots of data very easily in zonal office.
Thnx dear Susmita, “Canon CR-180II Check Scanner” is a Magnetic Ink Character Recognition price $2,695.00 (Tk. 190,000.00), for details pls check the link: http://www.allstarscanners.com/product_info.php/products_id/54 Our total computer for head office is 10 computers. 2 will use with scanner and other extra 8 Computers will use for reporting and data storage. All of computers are high configuration (tk 40000 per computer). If we feel that we need a local server then we buy only 3 extra computers (out of 8) & also save 5X40,000 =2lac tk. Then go to buy a colon server (tk 2 lac).
Name/ID: Md. Masudur Rahman 101-25-152
Response by one member of this group:
Name/ID:Md. Kamrul Hasan Chayon, 101-25-142
Thnak you very much Susmita for your questions. You have asked 2 questions.
The first question is about the scanner cost and its maintainability. Yes, the price of the scanner is more. But matching up to the other system, it is more efficient, the total cost is not over the another systems, easy to enter the data in the software. And maintenance is not so difference than the normal computer and the other accessories.And about the second question, there must be database server. Actually, we don't mention here specially, but include that in the PC.
Response by one member of this group:
These are very good questions. Cost variation for three different options is different which we have shown in the paper based diagram. According to these plans the cost (including scanner cost) our selected plan is effective as we said we have to use it only in the head office. On other hand we can reduce many resource which have to use in different zonal offices, area offices and branch offices. Your another question is about server. Yes we do use a database server we have budgeted that server PC included in Calculated 10 PCs. That server communicate with some few client PCs because it will works only in the head office.
I hope you have got your answer. Thank you for your question and we will be happy if we could help you more.
Name/ID: Ahammad Fekri102-25-156
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Comment or question by other group member:
Name/ID:
Response by one member of this group:
Name/ID: Md. Abu Sayem Shahadat 101-25-156
Thnaks Susmit. You have asked 2 questions.
Yes our scanner price is the major of our expense, comparing to others and the facility we are taking from it is more than others too. Using it we can easily enter data in our software. And important thing is that it has reduced our data entry related costing, and as a result our final cost is lower than the others. For such kinds of scanner’s the company generally have a very high level maintenance plan so we need not to worry about that.
As we are applying a big software system and heavy transaction and storage processes we are using database server may be we skipped to mention.
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Comment or question by other group member:
Name/ID: Muhammad Pasha (102-25-165)
I have few very Basic but Important questions for this group. Hope, they have already got the solution of my questions.
By what source the Forms or Papers will be delivered to the head office? Is it via the Currier Services ? Is it reliable for this?
If the papers are sent through the some personnel, then how many Moneys will you have to spend per month, did u calculate that?
Another important factor is that, the Time Consumption.
For Example, from Khulna City, a person needs at least 8-10 hours journey for just Enter to Dhaka City where the
Head Office of Grameen Bank is Located.
And if we consider the Data Process from the Branch Office- collect the Papers within 1 Day and send on Next day,
Then the Area Office- check and Send it to the Zonal Office on the next day,
Then the Zonal Office- also Check 100 papers in one Day (impossible) and send the paper to the following day to the Head Office;
*you need at least: 2+1+2= 5 days to send the report on Head Office + 3 days for update all the reports
= 8 working days = 1 and 1/2 weeks for GRAMEEN BANK
how can your group overcome this Long "Time Consuming matter"?
Thank U
Comment or question by : Muhammad Pasha (102-25-165)
Response by one member of this group:
The system will be verified in the first time through various ways. So INSHALLAH that will be error free.
Name/ID: Md. Kamrul Hasan Chayon, 101-25-142
Response by one member of this group:
Look Nila, All papers to be scanned would be come from different rural areas. That papers would be checked several times by branch manager, area manager and many others and then finally that would be proceed for scan. If still there is any format mistake we can find when we want to store data to DB table. We may fix this kind of problem by assigning particulars characters in the scanner for that specific errors.
I hope you have got your answer. Thank you for your question and we will be happy if we could help you more.
Name/ID: Ahammad Fekri 102-25-156
Comment or question by other group member:
Name/ID: Md. Azaharul Haque Biswas (102-25-167)
According to your System,
Is there any chance for Checking and Certification of existing data which has been entered ? If Yes ,can you explain how it is possible?
if the Shape / size of the Form is changed, will it make any effect on your Scanner ?
To Md. Kamrul Hasan Chayon, (101-25-142),
Very good hope, but is there any device which is "FIRST TIME ERROR FREE ??"
Thank U
Comment or question by
Md. Azaharul Haque Biswas (102-25-167)
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Comment or Answered by one of the member of this group :
Name/ID: Md. Enayet Ullah(102-25-166)
Thank U Mr. Md. Azaharul Haque Biswas (102-25-167)
There is no chance to change the shape or size of the input form, But some fields may added of the Same form (if needed)
Comment or Answered by one of the member of this group :
Name/ID: Md. Enayet Ullah(102-25-166)
Presentation Photos of Project Form 15
Thank you so much for uploading so quickly! Well done! The posters look good in *.jpg format!
Quiz 1:
1. Study any ONE of the other presentations. Think of questions to ask or comments on the presentation. Below the poster, find a place to write your question or comment. Your question or comment should cover any THREE aspects of software project implementation of your choice. To help you think, you can look at the following aspects: (6 marks)
Developing the application from the prototype, what else is needed?
Who will develop the application?
Terms and conditions
Purchase of hardware
Installation of hardware & maintenance.
Entry of existing, previous or current data
Errors in existing data
Errors after data entry
Checking and certification of existing data entered
Training
Pilot run
Adding of new fields and new reports, etc
2. Prepare and write a full response to at least THREE aspects on your presentation. (6 marks)
You should of course look at questions and answers of others, but marks will be given for originality, not for copying. The quiz should be completed by 2pm, July 15th. Remember to include your name and ID on each and a line before and after your work.
Response by:
Susmita Baidya, ID: 102-25-158
Our budget is more practical. The excel is looked like user traditional form, so it is very user friendly. We can edit the form here easily then the other system.
Comment or question by other group member:
We see two servers & cost 2.5 lac tk per server for HO that means u need highly professional and also another PC with manpower to generate final report. So please tell me "Is it possible to complete for ur HO amount 5 lac tk?" and also "If we fully setup all of activies in HO then do we get any benifit?"
Name/ID: Md. Masudur Rahman 101-25-152
Response by one member of this group:
Thanks for nice questions. We are sorry to say, we did not mentioned the total cost of HO setup except the 2 servers. Whereas other PCs and manpower are also required in HO. But if you see the financial proposal of Group-2, you may find the cost of each server @ tk 1 lak only. So it could be possible to complete the HO setup with the additional PCs and manpower within 5 lak (if you want). But our recommendation is to increase the budget for the additional PCs and manpower.
If we setup the HO part fully with the total setup, then the project of course be benefited. As HO will be the Centralized Data Center of the Project then we can- i) Control the project centrally, ii) Data can be stored centrally which ensures easy data backup facility and no scope of redundancy , iii) Modification/addition in the Excel Forms (for new month) can be done from the HO, iv) Monitoring and integration with other systems can also be possible easily.
Name/ID: Muhammad Ashik Iqbal (092-25-127)
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Comment or question by other group member:Question: We all know that excel files are vulnerable to virus.How would you manage the this security problem of your files?
Comment:You have not also mentioned the per PC cost of the software which is needed to create the excel files like Microsoft Office.
Name/ID: Chowdhury Tanvir Jalil (Id No:092-25-129)
Response by one member of this group:
Thanks Mr. Tanvir for your interest in our Group.
Not only the Excel files, any files can be affected by virus any time. Using updated Antivirus software we can protect them.
The cost of the Office Software (Word, Excel, PowerPoint) and the Operating System is included with each PC. That is why the price of each PC is bit higher in our proposal which in Tk. 50,000.
Name/ID: Muhammad Ashik Iqbal (092-25-127)
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Comment or question by other group member:You have said that you will setup the technology in the zonal office. You have also mentioned that, there will be three computers. But the data of 13x8=104 branches is a lot. Is it possible for the real field to enter the data properly?
You have used EXCEL. But as far as I know it can’t handle huge amount of data. It seems to me that EXCEL is better for the prototype but not for the real life software.
Name/ID: Md. Kamrul Hasan Chayon, 101-25-142
Response by one member of this group:
Thanks Mr. Chayon. Actually the data entry process will be done by three days together. So it will not be so difficult to complete the process by our given estimated man power and PCs.
Our Excel files will not contain huge amount of data at all. Our each Excel file will contain the data of only 8 Branches (One Area Office) of a single month.
Name/ID: Muhammad Ashik Iqbal (092-25-127)
Thank you for your answer. But the data of 8 branches is not so less. It will be better , if the EXCEL file contains the individual branch.
Name/ID: Md. Kamrul Hasan Chayon, 101-25-142
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Comment or question by other group member:As per your scenario we can see that your volume of work will be done within 3 days by your workers I just wanted to know rest of the month
what they will do?
Comments: In such case isn't it better to appoint part time worker.
Can you just explain me briefly whats your plan against server crash?
Name/ID: Md. Abu Sayem Shahadat 101-25-156
Response by one member of this group:
Thanks you so much Mr. Sayem for you nice question.
Yes, our data entry process will be done only in 3 days. And the rest of the days of a month is needed to- i) make the Printed Copies of the Data Entry Form, ii) Sending the forms to the Area Office as well as Branch Office, iii) Monitoring the Data Entry in Hard Copy at Branch level, iv) Collecting the hard copy forms from Area Office which will come from Branch, v) After the Data entry in Excel file sending the files to HO by Email/CD/DVD, vi) Getting Reports/Updates from HO, vii) Communicating with the HO and Area Office, viii) Troubleshooting the PCs and Printers, etc. So they will not only be the Data Entry Operations, also need to perform lot of tasks in the whole month. So we can't appoint them for part time.
We have mentioned two Parallel Servers in our project plan. . So if Which will ensure the Data Mirroring using RAID and Clustering Technologiesone servers crashes then we can recover data from another anytime. Also DVD/Tape Backup facility can be added later. Also other Disaster Recovery Sites can be setup at a geographically separate places in future.
Name/ID: Muhammad Ashik Iqbal (092-25-127)
Comment or question by other group member:
As we know Microsoft Excel takes very few resource comparatively Oracle, MS SQL Server or any other DB Server. Why do we need 2 (Two) Server PCs (Cost 2,50000 tk) only for handling 18 PCs? and how do you provide different aspects of reports (e.g branch report, area report zonal report and son on.) ? and how do you send data from branch office to head office...?
Name/ID: Ahammad Fekri 102-25-156
Response by one member of this group:
Thanks you so much Ahammad Fekri for you question’s
Our pricing was imagination in presentation time. Today I have analyzed real market for server pricing. I hope we will minimize the pricing.
We need two server for backup & security. We can provide our Printed Copies of the Data Entry Form to mail or by road. We have sent the data branch office to zonal by mail or by road, after that zonal office send the data to head office by email system because we setup the PC in our zonal office & we also can use other communication system which one is available in transferring time.
Thank you
Name/ID: Achia Khaleda Nila (092-25-133)
Comment or question by other group member:
Name/ID: Muhammad Pasha (102-25-165)
To my Dear friends and group members (of this group) and Achia Khaleda (ID: 092-25-133):
Thank u very much, I got the importance of using the 2 Servers from your last answer. In addition i would also like to ask,
What types of Server you are Referring? More specifically - Are both of these
Mail Servers? or Data Server? or Application Server? or Web Server?
Thank U
Comment or question by: Muhammad Pasha (102-25-165)
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Comment or question by other group member:
Name/ID: Md. Enayet Ullah(102-25-166)
Is there any option to check the Accuracy of the Data which is being Inputted form the zonal or Area office ?
And if the wrong data putted which phase (zonal office / Area office / Head Office )will check and update the Error?
Thank u
Comment or question by other group member:
Name/ID: Md. Enayet Ullah(102-25-166)
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Comment or question by other group member:
I think it’s a highly cost effective project in our environment, but it has data security and faster to build up final report. In this project we see that the members are not capable to calculate the project cost. So my question is “where are ur software developing cost?” And “don’t you need any training program? If YES then “where u mention that”?
Name/ID: Masudur Rahman 101-25-152
Response by one member of this group:
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Name/ID: A.Rahman Bhuiyan. / 093-25-140.
Dear Mr.Masudur Rahman
Thank your very much for your query. If you follow that carefully, Here we are concern about software prototype to implementation and second question answer is we are recruit expert data entry operators for data entry purpose and they will put the data in the database server through web followed by printed forms which server is located in head office premises. So no need additional training for data entry operators.
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Comment or question by other group member:I think your manpower cost is not feasible, because you mentioned per person cost is 500tk in a month under variable cost.If you look at the current job field of our country data entry operator salary will be within 5000 to 6000 tk per month
Name/ID: Chowdhury Tanvir Jalil(Id No:092-25-129)
Response by one member of this group:
Name/ID: Md. Azaharul Haque Biswas (102-25-167)
Thanks to Chowdhury Tanvir Jalil(Id No:092-25-129) for your nice opinion and a good question.
We are not offering any full time or Monthly Basis Job, We will offers daily basis job to the Data Entry Operators.
After The Successful Data Entry of 100 FORMS within 3 days, they have been paid 500 TK.
I have talked 3 Data Entry job Operators, who are the current Students of Daffodil International University, they agreed on our condition
Thank U
Name/ID: Md. Azaharul Haque Biswas (102-25-167)
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Comment or question by other group member:Name/ID: A.Rahman Bhuiyan. / 093-25-140.Dear Mr. Chowdhury Tanvir Jalil
Thank you very much for your valuable question. You saw that we recruit two data entry operator for only two days [32 hours] per months who are able to insert all data in database through web. So data entry cost is one thousand(1000/=) taka in a month per zone.
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Response by one member of this group:
Name/ID: Roni Shikder, ID: 102-25-159
Thanks for your nice question. It is not Tk. 500/month. Its daily basis job. We will hire data entry operator as our requirement.
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Comment or question by other group member:
Name/ID: Md. Aliullah Bhuiyan,ID:093-25-138
We know that, now this day all shorts computing activities we can do very easily and within
short time also nominal cost by use of web.But here why you can not provide the best solution
among them?Like Excel,Web or Desktop.
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Comment or question by other group member:
Name/ID:
Muhammed Samsuddoha Alam (093-25-139)
Thanks for ur nice presentation. Bt i have some confusion on ur hardware purchase estimation and others.1. Do you think the number of required UPS and its price is practical or sufficient?
2. Do you think manpower requirement is allright [for this huge task]?
3. Hav a look, in the last portion of your poster u r saying Area wise total cost. But is it areawise or someting else???
4. you gave the pc requirements bt by that price u can't buy high volume or efficient pcs. u need good performance pcs for web based applications? i think for purchase u hav to give efficient estimation becoz it is very important. what about ur opinion?
5. For any sort for software implementation u know we need implementation cost, maintanance cost, development cost and training cost. Bt where is those costs?
again many many thanks for ur hard work.
Response by one member of this group:
Name/ID: Muhammad Pasha (102-25-165)
Dear Mr. Muhammed Samsuddoha Alam (093-25-139), Md. Kamrul Hasan CHAYON (101-25-142) and All other friends,
i would like to thanks you all for all of your interest about our proposed system and our Presentation.
I would like to put my answers below:
Answer to the question number 1 & 4:
Most of you are Very much Concerned about the PRICES of our PCs from the very beginning, i would like to thank u all on behalf of my group.
At the same time i would like to Represent something to all of you which has been collected from a Well Known PC Dealer in Bangladesh-
" RYANS IT LIMITED "
RYANS is Offering :
and PRICE
M/B Intel G31 Chipset
HDD 160 GB SATA
15.6" LCD Monitor Wide
Standard Keyboard, Optical Mouse
ATX Casing Thermal
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Total Cost(with 3 years warranty) = 19,200 BDT
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1. Ideal 600 VA ======== 2,850
2. Apollo 650 VA =======2,800
3. Power Guard 600 VA = 2,800
4. OVO 650 VA ======== 2,850
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Our Team has so many choices
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Mercury : Models and Prices
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Other Well known keyboardsare also available with almost
the same tange of prices
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3 models
are available
with in BDT
300 to 550
Delux :
2 models
are available
with in
300 BDT
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Other Wellknown Mouses
are also
available with
almost
the same range
of prices
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I can confirm you all that the Estimated Price which had been proposed in our Presentation is REAL of-course!!! It was never
been imaginary.
And of course the Configurations of these PCs are good enough for only having a use of 28 working hours per Month
We don't need Very HI configured Processors or other Hardware for input some Datas on web.
What one thing i will suggest to my group members, that is -
WE BETTER PURCHASE SOME GOOD KEYBOARDS AND MOUSEs anyways. :D
(the price of good Keyboards and Mouses are also mentioned on my table)
thank U all
Answer to the question number 2:
If you please observe our 2nd Poster, i think you may find your answer. We have tried to show the total Seconds we need to
input these huge data. And from this, by calculating, we have got that we need in total 55.55 Hours to input those Data.
by Dividing 8 working hours by 2 PC , We just need
3 and 1/2 days to update the whole.
Thank U, once again.
Answer to the question number 3:
Of course it was the Area wise expenses which had been calculated earlier, it was the same calculating processes that we had to have
for the ZONE wise expenses. We just liked to mentioned the Total amount of expenses rather than the whole calculation.
Thank U
Answer to the question number 5:
Very good question once again. Thanks.
First of all we are not proposing any desktop Software, we are proposing a web-based solutions.
About Implementation Costs and Maintenance Costs:
Therefore we need only few implementation and maintenance costs of 6,525 BDT per month, after the First time Implementation
Cost of 3,99,988 BDT once.
All of these have been shown over in our upper Poster.
About Development Costs:
As all the groups have been told to imagine that their system is already exist, so no group shows the development costs not even your group.
But if we have been asked, we can calculate the accurate amount very easily and submit it to all.
About Training Costs:
Actually we just need the Data Entry Operators who know the Keyboard and only two Commands Copy and Paste. Not more than that,
because the Website's interface will be as it is the physical Paper on his hand, so the user don't need to have extra ICE BREAKING
Training Sessions. 1 hour training /person, would be very fine for all of these 12 peoples. And This training on Copy and Paste
don't need any extra costs, which can be called TRAINING COSTS .
thank u
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Comment or question by other group member:Name/ID: Susmita Baidya, 102-25-158
Are you sure that you can complete your work within the estimated time? because the speed of our Internet is not constant, sometimes it is very low or not available.
Response by one member of this group:
Name/ID: Muhammad Pasha (102-25-165)
Thank U Susmita,
If you please observe our 2nd Poster, i think you may find your answer. We have tried to show the total Seconds we need to
input these huge data. And from this, by calculating, we have got that we need in total 55.55 Hours to input those Data.
by Dividing 8 working hours by 2 PC , We just need 3 and 1/2 days to update the whole.
The fluctuation of speed of wireless internet depends on the collisions of number of users. So many users, so many Collisions.
In The Zonal Office, there is no chance to have a huge collisions between users and fluctuations as well.
Thank U
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Comment or question by other group member:Name/ID: Md. Kamrul Hasan CHAYON, 101-25-142
You are using your system in the zonal office, which is good. You are also using web based, I appreciate you. But in the zonal office you have used only two persons. So, can you complete your tasks properly? On the other hand, you pointed out that they are not permanent. Is not that a risky job, if you don’t get them in the right time? And the price of your computer is not so enough, so I think according to this amount, your computer configuration will not be enough which you need.
Response by one member of this group:
Name/ID:Muhammad Pasha (102-25-165)
Dear Md. Kamrul Hasan CHAYON (101-25-142),
Thanks for the two questions u have asked.
Both of these questions have been answered just above. please check it once again.
thank u
Thank you for your response. But still, I don't get the answer of second question. Cause the data entry operator are hired.
*Response by one member of this group:
Name/ID:Muhammad Pasha (102-25-165)
I think, there is a misunderstanding tool place in all of your minds, that is We are Hiring peoples from the Capital City!!
No ways of course! Why we will do so? We can easily picks 4/5 College going Boys as the part time workers. In the current
Economic Situation, 500Tk with in 3 days, is a big amount for any College Student (specially in the Urban Area).
The tasks will be distributed on the basis of First Come, First Get the Tasks
A well known Data Entry Firm in Dhaka named "Service Engine" is running its business from last 3 years having the same strategy
I can also mention, the name of "Green Land Group" who also has a Data Entry Firm, they are also using the same strategy.Both of these companies are running 100 PCs / Per day, where as their number of employees are more than 150 (each)
The payment has been paid by calculating the working hours of individulas / per month.
For 27 days of works (8 hours work per day) in a month, they paid 7000 BDT/ permonth
that is for 8 hours they are paying = 259.25 BDT
i think, you are satisfied now.
Thank You
- Muhammad Pasha (102-25-165)
Comment or question by other group member:
Could you please explain how you manage your employee ?
Name/ID: Achia Khaleda Nila (092-25-133)
Comment or question by other group member:
How you manage your security system because now a day’s web hacker is available.
Name/ID: Shariful Islam (092-25-128)
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Draw attention to the system:
Edited by: Md. Kamrul Hasan Chayon
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Comment or question by other group member:In this scanning system how to detect the Data Errors after the data reading by the system? If the error is so frequent then how to check and certify the existing data entered by the system?
Name/ID: Muhammad Ashik Iqbal (092-25-127)
Response by one member of this group:
Thnx brother, we know that our mobile operators company are using in this scanning systems for his client database. And it's a good sytem to increase database without data entry. When we scan a data page, the database automatic update will all data field. So data error checking smothly & frequently. If our data page have a satndard formt, so we don't face any problem to check or certify existing data. If we found any problems then our 8 peoples out (out of 10 and full) are fully consented, coz they are responsible for this job.
Name/ID: Md. Masudur Rahman 101-25-152
Response by one member of this group:
Name/ID: Chowdhury Tanvir Jalil 092-25-129
Thank you Mr.Ashik for you question.After scanning the documents we will take a printout and tally it with the documents came from the branches.If errors are found, then those will be corrected instantly in the printouts and modified in our database.
Response by one member of this group:
Brother, This scanning system scan data from a predefined format. Before scan we have to finalize the format of data of a single page. Data format means, number of square blocks for each character, the length of the defined information to be insert and the format of the information(integer, decimal, string etc.). We can also customize by setting static value for specific position in scanner. After completing all of this procedures we can scan sheets for test basis. If it works properly
then we can continue and if there is any error then we can fix it by setting customize character on that specific position.
I hope you have got your answer. Thank you for your question and we will be happy if we could help you more.
Name/ID: Ahammad Fekri 102-25-156
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Comment or question by other group member:Name/ID: Susmita Baidya, 102-25-158Scanner you used is very costly. If there is any problem in the scanner what about the maintainance cost & process?
what about your data backup system, is there any database server? because you don't mention about it?
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Response by one member of this group:
Name/ID: Md. Aliullah Bhuiyan,ID:093-25-138
These are very good questions .Thank you very much SUSMITA for your questions. You have asked already 2 questions in this group OK no problem. The first question was about the cost of scanner and its maintainability and the second question was about the database server.
First Answer:
The price of the scanner is more. But matching up to the other system, it is more efficient, the total cost is not over another systems, easy to enter the data in the software and maintenance is very normal to repair the computer and the other accessories.
Second Answer:
Actually, we don't mention here specially, but include that in the PC. We have six zones and each zone has four PCs total 24PCs and may be to store the data those are enough because now these days cost of hard disk very low that’s why we can store lots of data very easily in zonal office.
Name/ID: Md. Aliullah Bhuiyan,ID:093-25-138
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Thnx dear Susmita, “Canon CR-180II Check Scanner” is a Magnetic Ink Character Recognition price $2,695.00 (Tk. 190,000.00), for details pls check the link: http://www.allstarscanners.com/product_info.php/products_id/54 Our total computer for head office is 10 computers. 2 will use with scanner and other extra 8 Computers will use for reporting and data storage. All of computers are high configuration (tk 40000 per computer). If we feel that we need a local server then we buy only 3 extra computers (out of 8) & also save 5X40,000 =2lac tk. Then go to buy a colon server (tk 2 lac).
Name/ID: Md. Masudur Rahman 101-25-152
Response by one member of this group:
Name/ID:Md. Kamrul Hasan Chayon, 101-25-142
Thnak you very much Susmita for your questions. You have asked 2 questions.
The first question is about the scanner cost and its maintainability. Yes, the price of the scanner is more. But matching up to the other system, it is more efficient, the total cost is not over the another systems, easy to enter the data in the software. And maintenance is not so difference than the normal computer and the other accessories.And about the second question, there must be database server. Actually, we don't mention here specially, but include that in the PC.
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Response by one member of this group:These are very good questions. Cost variation for three different options is different which we have shown in the paper based diagram. According to these plans the cost (including scanner cost) our selected plan is effective as we said we have to use it only in the head office. On other hand we can reduce many resource which have to use in different zonal offices, area offices and branch offices. Your another question is about server. Yes we do use a database server we have budgeted that server PC included in Calculated 10 PCs. That server communicate with some few client PCs because it will works only in the head office.
I hope you have got your answer. Thank you for your question and we will be happy if we could help you more.
Name/ID: Ahammad Fekri 102-25-156
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Comment or question by other group member:Name/ID:
Response by one member of this group:
Name/ID: Md. Abu Sayem Shahadat 101-25-156
Thnaks Susmit. You have asked 2 questions.
Yes our scanner price is the major of our expense, comparing to others and the facility we are taking from it is more than others too. Using it we can easily enter data in our software. And important thing is that it has reduced our data entry related costing, and as a result our final cost is lower than the others. For such kinds of scanner’s the company generally have a very high level maintenance plan so we need not to worry about that.
As we are applying a big software system and heavy transaction and storage processes we are using database server may be we skipped to mention.
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Comment or question by other group member:Name/ID: Muhammad Pasha (102-25-165)
I have few very Basic but Important questions for this group. Hope, they have already got the solution of my questions.
By what source the Forms or Papers will be delivered to the head office? Is it via the Currier Services ? Is it reliable for this?
If the papers are sent through the some personnel, then how many Moneys will you have to spend per month, did u calculate that?
Another important factor is that, the Time Consumption.
For Example, from Khulna City, a person needs at least 8-10 hours journey for just Enter to Dhaka City where the
Head Office of Grameen Bank is Located.
And if we consider the Data Process from the Branch Office- collect the Papers within 1 Day and send on Next day,
Then the Area Office- check and Send it to the Zonal Office on the next day,
Then the Zonal Office- also Check 100 papers in one Day (impossible) and send the paper to the following day to the Head Office;
*you need at least:2+1+2= 5 days to send the report on Head Office + 3 days for update all the reports
= 8 working days = 1 and 1/2 weeks for GRAMEEN BANK
how can your group overcome this Long "Time Consuming matter"?
Thank U
Comment or question by :
Muhammad Pasha (102-25-165)
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Comment or question by other group member:Name/ID: Achia Khaleda Nila (092-25-133)
Could you please explain how we understand the updating data is error free? If you put anything wrong how you make it error free?
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Response by one member of this group:The system will be verified in the first time through various ways. So INSHALLAH that will be error free.
Name/ID: Md. Kamrul Hasan Chayon, 101-25-142
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Response by one member of this group:Look Nila, All papers to be scanned would be come from different rural areas. That papers would be checked several times by branch manager, area manager and many others and then finally that would be proceed for scan. If still there is any format mistake we can find when we want to store data to DB table. We may fix this kind of problem by assigning particulars characters in the scanner for that specific errors.
I hope you have got your answer. Thank you for your question and we will be happy if we could help you more.
Name/ID: Ahammad Fekri 102-25-156
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Comment or question by other group member:Name/ID: Md. Azaharul Haque Biswas (102-25-167)
According to your System,
Is there any chance for Checking and Certification of existing data which has been entered ? If Yes ,can you explain how it is possible?
if the Shape / size of the Form is changed, will it make any effect on your Scanner ?
To Md. Kamrul Hasan Chayon, (101-25-142),
Very good hope, but is there any device which is "FIRST TIME ERROR FREE ??"
Thank U
Comment or question by
Md. Azaharul Haque Biswas (102-25-167)
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Comment or Answered by one of the member of this group :
Name/ID: Md. Enayet Ullah(102-25-166)
Thank U Mr. Md. Azaharul Haque Biswas (102-25-167)
There is no chance to change the shape or size of the input form, But some fields may added of the Same form (if needed)
Comment or Answered by one of the member of this group :
Name/ID: Md. Enayet Ullah(102-25-166)
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